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[12:58:38] <nicolas> hi asterix
[13:03:37] <nicolas> it's just to now if gajim support jingle IBB
[13:07:12] <Asterix> sorry?
[13:08:19] <nicolas> Hum, I'm the guy from the gsoc in mcabber
[13:08:37] <nicolas> and you said me, you was doing IBB in jingle
[13:08:38] <Asterix> ha ok
[13:08:55] <Asterix> so Gajim has IBB, but still not with jingle FT :/
[13:08:59] <nicolas> ok
[13:09:14] <Asterix> ths student promissed he'd to it, but he didn't :/
[13:09:15] <nicolas> it's because an user ask me with which client it could work
[13:09:29] <Asterix> not with Gajim yet ..
[13:09:44] <nicolas> we start socks5
[13:09:49] <nicolas> but it's borring
[13:09:59] <Asterix> good luck!
[13:10:01] <nicolas> we try to do our own upnp client because are... not good
[13:10:12] <nicolas> others*
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[14:13:55] <louiz’> Hum, I'm wondering. How could we do an IM-XHTML implementation in a console client?
[14:14:17] <louiz’> Implementing, for example, only colors, bold and underlined
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[14:17:03] <nicolas> yeah
[14:17:09] <deryni> Assuming you've got an im-xhtml parser I don't see why you couldn't.
[14:17:10] <nicolas> I asked myself the answer
[14:17:18] <nicolas> the question*
[14:17:35] <louiz’> Yeah, but is there an im-xhtml parser? :p
[14:17:47] <louiz’> a simple one, not a whole browser…
[14:20:04] <deryni> Your xml parser should already be handle the basics, you can work from there if you have to. I don't know of anything doing the extra legwork though.
[14:20:35] <Zash> Gmail's in-browser gtalk client, does it do muc?
[14:21:46] <louiz’> parsing im-xhtml is a lot more difficul that XMPP protocol, no?
[14:22:06] <louiz’> I mean, there's A LOT of possibilities, just to display a simple color
[14:22:24] <petermount> zash: don't think it does
[14:24:14] <deryni> The recommended set of elements in im-xhtml is rather small.
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[14:25:00] <waqas> im-xhtml.. isn't it xhtml-im? ^^
[14:25:13] <deryni> Yes.
[14:25:31] <louiz’> yes, you're right
[14:25:37] <louiz’> XEP-0071, anyway
[14:26:53] <waqas> But color is the last thing I'd want in a client. Bold/italic are nice, but color is typically annoying :)
[14:27:38] <louiz’> It depends. Sometimes it's useful, for example messages coming from bots or whatever.
[14:27:55] <louiz’> But I could just let the user ignore colors but display bold and underlined
[14:28:10] <waqas> Hmm, you don't really need to note elements for color. Color as far as I see requires the 'style' attribute (which contains CSS)...
[14:28:31] <louiz’> to note elements?
[14:28:36] <louiz’> (didn't understand)
[14:29:16] <waqas> None of the xhtml-im elements define a color.
[14:29:19] <louiz’> Seems like Gajim has its own code to parse and display XHTML-IM, so I'll take a look at their code
[14:29:34] <waqas> The only way to use colors is to use CSS in the style attribute on an element.
[14:29:45] <louiz’> Yes, that's why it's difficult…
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[14:31:17] <deryni> CSS parsing libraries definitely exist.
[14:31:27] <waqas> CSS is fairly simple anyway
[14:32:07] <louiz’> hum, OK
[14:32:10] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> hello all
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[14:32:20] <deryni> The syntax, yes. Not the cascading/selector stuff. But luckily you only need the syntax stuff for xhtml-im.
[14:32:47] <louiz’> great :)
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[14:33:06] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> hello All
[14:33:16] <louiz’> hello rizinbox\40jabber.org
[14:33:34] <deryni> At least, I don't think you can meaningfully use selectors/etc. from within the style attribute.
[14:33:42] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> I am new in jabber
[14:34:01] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> i have assignment to work on IM Client for blackberry
[14:34:28] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> can you suggest me any open source Client for blackBerry
[14:34:37] <louiz’> deryni, and I don't think any client would do that anyway…
[14:35:02] <deryni> I'd certainly hope not.
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[14:40:04] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> hello
[14:42:23] <louiz’> hello again
[14:42:32] <louiz’> Sorry, I personally don't know any blackberry client
[14:42:45] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> oky thanks
[14:43:05] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> anybody who knows about blackberry Client..
[14:43:12] <petermount> I occasionally use IM+ on my blackberry (free version is enough for me), handles xmpp and a few other protocols
[14:43:28] <petermount> there are several in the app store
[14:44:19] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> patermount can you tell me the name or give me link
[14:48:11] <petermount> one mo, in an impromptu meeting :-/
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[14:53:09] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> oky
[14:54:27] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> anyone other free who have knowledge about any open source client for BlackBerry
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[14:57:11] <petermount> rizinbox: http://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/6911
[15:00:38] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> oky thanks let me check it..
[15:06:14] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> petermout: but this is not open source
[15:06:28] <petermount> not that one... i don't think
[15:06:37] <petermount> not sure of many for any mobile platform
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[15:07:21] <Kev> Does the BlackBerry have a standard development stack? If so porting Swift should be fairly easy.
[15:08:03] <petermount> They do have one but only for Windows...
[15:10:45] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> so there is no any open source client for blackberry
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[15:14:20] <zanchin> rizinbox\40jabber.org, there are, but it's not much. let's see if i can dig something up
[15:15:00] <zanchin> I've played with http://jabbermixclient.sourceforge.net/ before
[15:16:51] <zanchin> rizinbox\40jabber.org, since blackberry's software stack is basically J2ME, search for J2ME clients, not just blackberry ones
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[15:38:35] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> hmm
[15:39:14] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> so can i run JMC jabber mix client latest version on blackberyy
[15:39:51] <rizinbox\40jabber.org> Zanchin tell me
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[16:09:15] <zanchin> rizinbox\40jabber.org, yes, you should be able to, but I haven't used in in about 2 years
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