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[14:45:42] <florob42> Uuuuuuu. a reappeared room I have found
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[15:38:06] <MattJ> Voting for the new council is tough
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[15:42:40] <MattJ> It seems I thoroughly broke memberbot :)
[15:43:31] <petermount> I think I break it at least once every time I vote...
[15:48:40] <MattJ> Hmm, struggling to find council archives on the new xmpp.org :/
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[15:54:35] <MattJ> Yay for my local xmpp.org mirror :)
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[15:56:25] <MattJ> Wow, the first council had 9 members
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[16:08:32] <Florob> oh right... voting for council
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[16:46:33] <Zash> What's up?
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[16:51:33] <MattJ> Florob, is memberbot responding to you?
[16:53:29] <MattJ> Also, I'm considering lobbying my MP to make it illegal to produce new file formats that aren't 1) XML or 2) .ini format
[16:54:03] <Zash> ^^
[16:54:34] <MattJ> The ical spec is far too long
[16:54:59] <MattJ> Look at an ical file and it looks simple
[16:55:05] <MattJ> key:value pairs
[16:55:10] <Zash> Aren't those file formats older than XML?
[16:55:21] <MattJ> They are, but I doubt they're older than ini :)
[16:55:27] <Zash> But, yes, they are horrible
[16:55:41] <Zash> And impossible to represent nicely in anything else
[16:55:48] <MattJ> It turns out that value may be multiple values, separated by commas
[16:56:07] <MattJ> there's no way to know if the commas are part of the value except by looking up the key in the spec
[16:56:23] <MattJ> keys may appear multiple times with different values, so they aren't keys at all
[16:56:27] <Zash> KEY:VALUE KEY;PARAM=PVALUE:VALUE
[16:56:38] <MattJ> I was getting to that
[16:57:00] <MattJ> /me sighs
[16:57:13] <MattJ> and then add value folding
[16:57:25] <MattJ> are long lines really so bad? :)
[16:57:59] <Florob> MattJ, he is not even online for me
[16:58:00] <Zash> Everything comes back to email
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[18:22:42] <MattJ> http://conference.prosody.im:5280/pastebin/e12ec220-031f-44fa-9de4-0ae88c5c761a
[18:22:52] <MattJ> These bots can't be trusted to do anything right :)
[18:24:44] <louiz’> Did I mention that I just received XMPP The Definitive Guide?
[18:24:51] <Kev> \o/
[18:24:56] <louiz’> \o/
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[01:09:02] <SJrX> Hmmmm
[01:09:41] <SJrX> What is an offline message as far as Smack is concerned.
[01:10:57] <MattJ> A message, most likely
[01:11:32] <MattJ> Hmm, offline messages get timestamped by the server, but so may other messages
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