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[09:52:36] <ther> Hello, I am writing a new vcard. According to the rfc2426, a type of e-mail address can be specified. For example 'type:internet' for an e-mail address 'a@b.com <mailto:a@b.com>'. Any suggestions for the type to specify for a jabber address? Example 'type:xmpp' or 'chat' or 'impp'?
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[09:58:20] <naw> ther: there is a spec for xmpp uris
[09:58:41] <naw> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0147.html
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[10:03:21] <naw> but it doesn't say nothing about the type
[10:03:33] <ther> naw: thanks; my thoughts so far is to use type:extendable instant messaging presence protocol. Extensible is not an English world
[10:04:15] <naw> if you assume that that type is related to "Enumservice", then according to rfc4979 it would be "xmpp"
[10:04:54] <ther> Well, just thinking of type in terms of the rfc for vcard.
[10:08:58] <naw> hmmm kaddressbook uses X-messaging/xmpp-All: X-KADDRESSBOOK-X-IMAddress: for IM
[10:09:29] <naw> and xmpp is not an email, so you shouldn't use the EMAIL label
[10:11:40] <naw> take a look to http://www.rfc-archive.org/getrfc.php?rfc=4770
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[10:27:08] <ther> Interesting. So for a sip number I would replace tel; with sip; and email; for jabber with xmpp;?
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[10:28:31] <ther> I should have read rfc4770 more :) The correct parameter is impp;
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[11:01:37] <ther> May I suggest that this information about classification of xmpp in vcard is added to the jabber faq?
[11:01:51] <ther> Thanks for your help, naw :)
[11:04:55] <naw> maybe it should be mentioned in sime section of xmpp.org, or in wiki.xmpp.org
[11:08:42] <ther> I could not see the sime section and not sure where in the wiki this should go. Anyone here with an existing account for the wiki to add this content please?
[11:09:15] <waqas> s/sime/some/
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[11:22:34] <ther> Does anyone know what happens to the vcard impp field in recipients such as m$ or evolution? An old version evolution 2123 ignores the impp data
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[11:56:16] <naw> ther: according to wikipedia, I suspect that is X-MS-IMADDRESS (IM address in VCF attachment from Outlook (right click Contact, Send Full Contact, Internet Format.)
[11:58:16] <ther> Typical of m$. I shall ignore and leave such recipients to adjust manually ;)
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[14:00:44] <dustball> hello there
[14:01:35] <dustball> i am pretty new to jabber but i need to set up a server. any recommendations for close-to-standard servers which are also very well extensible?
[14:01:58] <Kev> I'd look at http://prosody.im first.
[14:02:07] <Kev> Assuming you want something Free.
[14:03:02] <dustball> looks good, thanks
[14:03:03] <waqas> Thanks Kev :)
[14:04:00] <Kev> np
[14:04:03] <waqas> I don't think 'very well extensible' would easily apply to non-Free :)
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[14:04:35] <MattJ> /me high-fives waqas
[14:04:37] <Kev> waqas: I don't know - my server supports Lua scripting ;)
[14:04:38] <waqas> dustball: You can join prosody@conference.prosody.im if you try Prosody (or even if you don't).
[14:06:57] <Nÿco> dustball: there is also ejabberd: http://www.ejabberd.im/
[14:08:10] <Nÿco> also maybe Openfire, but it's not well maintained these days: http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/
[14:14:16] <dustball> okay, restrictions are: free, should support some standard-transports (OSCAR and yim/msn for instance) and it'd be good if its not in a spaced out language xD i wanna use it to monitor servers n stuff... (i know, works mostly through bots but would be great if i got it to work in jabber natively)
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[14:15:01] <Nÿco> all support transports
[14:15:19] <Kev> I don't know of a mainstream server software that doesn't do transports.
[14:15:22] <waqas> dustball: Have a look: http://monitor.prosody.im/ :)
[14:15:24] <Kev> Right, what Nÿco said :)
[14:15:32] <Nÿco> it depends on what you call "spaced out" language: it seems you're an admin, right? so any server implementation would do
[14:16:09] <Kev> waqas: Oh, that's pretty. What's that monitoring?
[14:16:49] <MattJ> My servers, laptop, router and mobile phone
[14:16:53] <dustball> well mostly not brainfuck or something like that xD
[14:17:01] <Nÿco> as a consequence, Lua and erlang do the trick, as well as Java, if not better... ;-)
[14:17:16] <Kev> brainfuck may be one of the few languages that there *isn't* an xmpp server in.
[14:17:19] <Kev> That I know of, anyway.
[14:17:22] <dustball> wow, prosody updates pretty fast
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[14:18:02] <Nÿco> yeah, next year, GSoC: Full XMPP 1.0 server implementation in Brainfuck... with transports in Whitespace
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[14:18:15] <Kev> Hah, I'd forgotten about Whitespace.
[14:18:19] <dustball> maybe a dumb question but it has to be asked: prosody messages you, when you're above specified warnings or critics, right?
[14:18:38] <MattJ> dustball, not Prosody, Prosody is just an XMPP server... the monitors are XMPP clients
[14:19:14] <dustball> ah okay, but these msg you?
[14:19:30] <MattJ> Yes, they just send a notification to Prosody when a value on the system changes
[14:19:39] <MattJ> and Prosody distributes that notification to anyone who is interested
[14:19:47] <MattJ> and only those who are interested ;)
[14:19:59] <dustball> okay, thats what i wanted to know
[14:20:05] <MattJ> For example my mobile will only receive critical updates
[14:20:12] <MattJ> since I don't want to waste bandwidth
[14:20:29] <dustball> cause i know nagios for monitoring already, used it and its a pain in the ass
[14:20:37] <MattJ> I know, that's why I made this :)
[14:21:36] <MattJ> /me switches on his mobile
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[14:34:00] <dustball> by the way: what jabber-client do you prefer?
[14:34:18] <dustball> just because i tried psi, it doesnt seem to work as it should... pidgin does but doesn't suit me for jabber
[14:34:20] <Kev> I work on http://swift.im, so that :)
[14:34:33] <Kev> I used to work on Psi, so I might be able to help there.
[14:34:40] <Kev> What's up?
[14:34:58] <dustball> well i tried to join the channel, but just kept getting error-messages
[14:35:12] <Kev> What error messages?
[14:35:54] <dustball> second, just scanning the services again
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[14:38:44] <dustball> i cant even enter it via psi
[14:39:01] <Kev> Enter what?
[14:39:18] <dustball> the chat
[14:39:24] <dustball> it just appears as offline to me
[14:39:25] <Kev> Why?
[14:39:39] <Kev> What chat, and what do you mean it 'appears as offline'?
[14:39:52] <dustball> jabber@conference.jabber.org
[14:40:00] <dustball> and it just says "service is offline"
[14:40:10] <Kev> Where does it say that?
[14:40:38] <Kev> Have you added this as a bookmark, or are you joining with the Join MUC menu option?
[14:40:49] <Kev> "Join Groupchat", rather.
[14:41:55] <dustball> i can only add it to my contact-list
[14:42:05] <Kev> It's not a contact, you shouldn't add it to your contact list :)
[14:42:26] <Kev> Right, so that'll be why it doesn't work. Try either adding it as a bookmark, or use the "Join Groupchat" menu item.
[14:43:08] <dustball> yeah... can because of laughing...
[14:43:28] <dustball> the problem is: those options are gres
[14:43:31] <dustball> grey*
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[14:43:57] <dustball> i mean i would if i could but i can't
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[14:44:20] <dustball2> okay -.-
[14:44:28] <dustball2> what the...
[14:44:30] <dustball2> >_>
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[14:45:43] <dustball> okay now i also know why it doesnt work
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[14:46:40] <dustball> kev: problem was i scanned the whole list for services...
[14:47:16] <dustball> meaning scanned the whole conference.jabber.org, instead of which i should only have scanned jabber@conference.jabber.org
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[16:39:53] <Sunilsharma5187> Hi
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[22:32:25] <jackson40702> can anyone help me?
[22:32:54] <jackson40702> with jabber
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[22:37:33] <jackson40702> hi
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[03:17:36] <Scoundrel> hi jackson
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